Former CIA deep cover agent Gene “Chip” Tatum on the murder of Amiram Nir.
Abbreviated transcript of Gene Tatum’s appearance on the Rob Lori radio show out of Tampa, Florida:
Okay, let’s talk about that. Amiram Nir is an Israeli intelligence person. And I’m not sure whether he worked for the government or not. Tell me more about Amiram Nir.
He was the Prime Minister of Israel’s primary consultant on terrorism.Â He was associated with Israeli intelligence. I’m not going to say it was Mossad. It was Israeli intelligence of some sort — because of his knowledge.
And when you say “Mr. North’s time toÂ build these camps:” He designated that to General Alvarez of Honduras — he was the army Chief of Staff — and to Enrique Bermudez(sp?), the commander of those North camps. *They* actually built those camps.
I think I saw Mr. North one time in Honduras — no, twice. I’m sorry.
So in terms of “taking out” Amiram Nir, what was your role in that?
I was to fly a 4-manÂ teamÂ to a southern Mexico town, outside of
Morelia.Â Mr. Nir was involvedÂ inÂ anÂ avocadoÂ packagingÂ plant
which,Â IÂ don’tÂ knowÂ ifÂ it did or didn’t package avocados, or
packaged something else.Â IÂ wasÂ notÂ involved in that.Â I *was*
involved in eliminating him before heÂ couldÂ appearÂ beforeÂ the
commissions to testify in 1989.
IÂ flewÂ aÂ 4-man team in.Â There was a radio beacon put in, with
the frequency given to us,Â putÂ onÂ Mr. Nir. We triangulated the
position.Â The 4-man team went to that position to eliminateÂ Mr.
Nir. However apparently there were two signals, and one was in an
aircraft,Â aÂ smallÂ aircraft.Â Â I think it was a Cessna T-210, a
small, charter aircraft.
When I fly a mission as a combat helicopter pilot, into a foreign
country, we normallyÂ flyÂ inÂ what’sÂ calledÂ “the Archer Mode,”
which is an armed mode.Â WeÂ wouldÂ flyÂ anÂ aircraftÂ withÂ full
StingersÂ onÂ oneÂ sideÂ ofÂ the pod, and we would fly a, about a
one-quarter to one-third chargedÂ missilesÂ onÂ the right side of
the aircraft, so that we could scare away base aircraft basedÂ in
theÂ countryÂ thatÂ weÂ were in, rather than shoot them down.Â We
would rather scare them away than shoot them down.
Unfortunately, this missile, theÂ proximity missile that I fired,
took down the aircraft and killed two people on board.
And one of them was Amiram Nir?
The shoot-down took place at a time when the Iran-ContraÂ scandal
was on the front pages of American newspapers, right?
So what’s your theory about why your superiors wanted him “taken out?”
I believe thatÂ heÂ couldÂ have provided embarrassing information
about the involvement of Mr. Harari, directly linking,Â probably,
Israel,Â toÂ theÂ manufacturingÂ andÂ traffickingÂ of cocaine.Â I
believe that he could implicateÂ the Vice-President of the United
States, George Bush,Â inÂ theÂ traffickingÂ ofÂ cocaine.Â Â AndÂ I
believeÂ heÂ could implicate several others, including Mr. North.
And I believe that he was prepared to implicate them.
Who ordered you to “take out” Amiram Nir?
It came throughÂ MajorÂ Rodriguez,Â whoÂ actuallyÂ ended up being
Felix Rodriguez.Â Most of the orders that we would receiveÂ would
comeÂ throughÂ thatÂ particularÂ mode.Â Â NowÂ this,Â youÂ have to
understand,Â wasÂ afterÂ Iran-Contra.Â Â SoÂ theÂ orderÂ came from
Rodriguez, but it was actually from George Bush.
Now how do you know it was from George Bush?
Because I spoke to Mr. Bush concerning it.
And how did you speak to him? Did you speak to him face-to-face?
Via land line.
And what did he tell you?
He explained to me that Mr. Nir was a threat, that he wasÂ trying
to expose the movement and the trafficking, and that he needed to
beÂ “takenÂ out.”Â Â AndÂ heÂ toldÂ meÂ to pick up my Archer Team,
relocateÂ toÂ ElÂ Salvador,Â thatÂ tacticalÂ fuelÂ [unclear]Â and
tactical beacons would be set up.Â Â IÂ was to move my aircraft to
those beacons for re-fueling, and eliminate Mr. Nir.
Now what was your frame of mind, as…
Let me qualify that:Â I was also told that this wasÂ anÂ approved
missionÂ byÂ theÂ Mossad and that it was primarily for the Mossad
that we were doing this.
So the Mossad viewed Amiram Nir as a renegade agent, and they wanted him “taken out” as well.
That’s the understanding that was given to me, yes.